Logically, it makes no sense to me...and yet I still want to believe...is that screwed or what? I love just about everything Jesus stands for, except the scripture where he asks those who don't have a sword to go and buy one...but again, I digress. Sorry!
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A STUNNINGLY simple question about JOHN 3:16 "For God so Loved the world."
by Terry inon what basis did god so love the world?.
the world of mankind had been condemned to death by god's curse in eden!.
god viewed mankind as "dust on the scales".
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Toilet cleaners needed.
by Free inanyone ever get the privilege of cleaning toilets at the district conventions ?
i can't believe they called it a privilege.
in the heat, in a suit and on your lunch or after the show.
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Been there, done that. Never again.
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A STUNNINGLY simple question about JOHN 3:16 "For God so Loved the world."
by Terry inon what basis did god so love the world?.
the world of mankind had been condemned to death by god's curse in eden!.
god viewed mankind as "dust on the scales".
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Ok, I was thinking about this topic the other night, and my problem with John 3:16 is the part about 'GAVE his only-begotten...'. Since Jesus was raised back to immortal life, in what sense was he 'given'? He was tortured and dead for parts of 3 days so that was an exchange, but ultimately he returned to whence he had come and continued with immortal life in the heavens, just as he was immortal pre the journey to earth. I know I digress from the original question, and sorry for that....but the more one thinks about these questions, the more questions there seems to be... he was apparently 'given' to pay a price, but the more I think about the whole scenario, the more it smacks of the old Jewish 'scapegoat' concept....not to hijack...just random musings....
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I looked in my crystal ball...
by changeling inand saw many jw's making plans for a gargantuan goodie night on the night of the last book study.
something along the lines of "tonight i'm gonna party like it's 1999.".
i looked again and saw a letter from the governing body warning the "dear sheep" of such foolish and worldly behaviour and of the dangers that could result.
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Tired of the Hypocrisy:
You are a man of VISION!
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Monsanto Whistleblower Says Genetically Engineered Crops May Cause Disease
by What-A-Coincidence inthis is the same company that gave us agent orange, as far as i know...
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This is the same company that gave us Agent Orange, as far as I know...
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"Congregation Bible Study" - Name Change probably money motivated
by Meeting Junkie No More inok, just to beat this topic to death, i think the real reason for the book study amalgamation is actually the name change to congregation bible study.. there's got to be a gazillion catholic, protestant, presbyterian, anglican, methodist, united etc.
churches that have alpha courses and bible study nights.
and some light bulb has gone off in brooklyn so that the so-called governing body has finally caught on that they are the only religion without an actual 'bible' study meeting.
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Why, thank you! I thought no one had noticed....
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Prediction: the new looong weeknite meeting will be trimmed
by yadda yadda 2 inthe new version weeknite meeting combining the cbs, the tms and sm will be 1.45 hours long!.
that's just wayyy too long.
with the tendency for many talks to creep over time, it will be more like 2 hours of boring, prosaic, dry, dull, drivel on your bums on those cold, winter nights.
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Oompah:
They're all too BLOODY long! Most of the elders were quite tired and had one eye shut for most of the Serve Us meeting as it was - maybe that's why they're going to have 3 songs - I guess the Catholics had it over the JW's - the more the flock gets up and down, the more awake they stay! Now, with getting up 3 times for the songs, no one will be able to have a decent nap!
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Prediction: the new looong weeknite meeting will be trimmed
by yadda yadda 2 inthe new version weeknite meeting combining the cbs, the tms and sm will be 1.45 hours long!.
that's just wayyy too long.
with the tendency for many talks to creep over time, it will be more like 2 hours of boring, prosaic, dry, dull, drivel on your bums on those cold, winter nights.
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None of the changes announced as of yet will stop the loss of membership, they are just re-arranging the decks as the Titanic sinks.
Truer words were never spoken! I predict yadda's prediction will come true!
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Could This Be The Watchtower's Endgame?
by metatron insuppose you had a business that didn't make money.
you would try to make the thing more efficient and probably lay off.
some workers to cut costs.
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I have now come to expect that the REAL REASONS are all money motivated. There has to be a reason for the change of name from 'Congregation Book Study' to 'Congregation Bible Study'. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the lawyers are already aware of some change in governmental regulations concerning religions/charities and the Society will run afoul of those by not having their meeting names use the word 'Bible' somewhere in order to come under the 'Christian' rubric. Perhaps that is why they have already incorporated some company with the name 'Jehovah's CHRISTIAN witnesses'. Gotta be a money reason, imho. By focusing on Satan, gas, burdens, etc. the real reason is buried and nobody will give it a second thought. Perhaps they will actually study ONLY THE BIBLE! Wouldn't that be a switch? Catching up to Christendom?
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I went head to head with my family and I lost
by noontide injust got done with a 3 hr.
argument with my family.
the essence of the conversation was that since im not going to the meetings, aka: in the organization, im not a good person.
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3 hours! WOW - sounds exhausting. I think you did good just to survive it! Anyhow, what works for me is I just drop a few hints that I no longer go to meetings, because I have such a hard time reconciling what I hear with what I see - talk about all the love in the organization vs. all the back-biting, gossip etc.; talk about how close the end is althewhile hearing about the Society's 8-year plan for South America, etc., talk about the importance of young ones getting an education vs. education being Satan-controlled. I mean, how much doublespeak can one person endure on a never-ending basis? Just better to tune out the cacophany.
IMHO, I think you will have more success dealing with individuals rather than groups. With individual discussions, I think you get to reach the true person underneath the cult persona, but in a group, they go into groupthink/groupspeak without even realizing it. Anyhow, I think you did great just to get through it. Thanks for sharing.